The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady

The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady

Charles Mingus · 1963 Spin it Again - Six musicians playing like they're mourning something they can't name, recorded in one day because Mingus knew it wouldn't get better than that.

The People in the Room

Charlie Mariano played alto saxophone on this record, and that needs saying plainly: his tone is the emotional center of the whole thing. Mariano had a way of making the alto sound wounded without making it sound weak, and Mingus leaned on that quality throughout. Quentin Jackson on trombone provided the growl underneath, and Jaki Byard — who could play anything and usually did — took the piano chair.

The guitarist was Jay Berliner, a classical-trained player who brought a nylon-string delicacy that still surprises people the first time they hear it surface from the ensemble. Mingus himself played bass, of course, but not like furniture — like a second composer in the room, steering the whole thing from underneath.

Producer Bob Thiele let Mingus run the sessions. That was the right call. The music required someone who understood it completely, and only one person in that room did.

What the Record Actually Does

The opening track — “Track A — Solo Dancer” — doesn’t ease you in. The ensemble arrives at near-full weight inside the first thirty seconds, and the stereo spread is wide enough that on a good system you can hear individual instruments shifting position across the soundstage. This is one of those recordings where the room itself is part of what got captured.

The dynamic range is enormous. Passages of near-silence give way to ensemble passages that feel physical. If your speakers can’t move air, you will miss the bottom end of what Mingus built here, and that bottom end is load-bearing.

Mingus also commissioned his own therapist, Dr. Edmund Pollock, to write the original liner notes — a decision that was either deeply serious or deeply funny, and probably both. Pollock’s notes are a psychological portrait of Mingus through the music, written while the sessions were still warm. Nobody does that. Nobody did that. It tells you how seriously Mingus took this particular work.

There’s a moment late in “Track D — Trio and Group Dancers” where Mariano’s alto and the ensemble pull in opposite directions for about eight bars before arriving at something that sounds less like resolution than like exhausted agreement. I’ve heard that passage probably forty times and I still can’t fully account for it.

That’s what the great ones do.

The Record
LabelImpulse! Records
Released1963
RecordedVan Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, January 20, 1963
Produced byBob Thiele
Engineered byRudy Van Gelder
PersonnelCharles Mingus (bass), Charlie Mariano (alto saxophone), Quentin Jackson (trombone), Jay Berliner (guitar), Jaki Byard (piano), Don Ellis (trumpet), Richard Williams (trumpet), Dick Hafer (tenor saxophone, flute), Jerome Richardson (baritone saxophone, flute), Dannie Richmond (drums), Milt Hinton (bass)
Track listing
1. Track A — Solo Dancer (Stop! Look! And Listen, Sinner Jim Whitney!)2. Track B — Duet Solo Dancers (Hearts' Beat and Shades in Physical Embraces)3. Track C — Group Dancers (Soul Fusion) Freewoman and Oh, This Freedom's Slave Cries4. Track D — Trio and Group Dancers5. Track E — Single Solos and Group Dance (Saint and Sinner Join Hands in Merriment on the Occasion…)6. Track F — Group Dance, Coda (Holy Ghost — Souls of Your World in an Abandon of Joyful Mourning)

Where are they now
Charles Mingus
continued composing and leading groups through the 1970s, was diagnosed with ALS in 1977, and died in January 1979 at age 56.